Podcasts by With a Side of Knowledge

With a Side of Knowledge

Produced at the University of Notre Dame, With a Side of Knowledge started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for 30-minute, informal conversations about their work—until season 4, when the pandemic prompted us to record everything remotely. Now, with season 5, we’re excited to be able to bring back in-person interviews while still taking advantage of the flexibility afforded by our remote setup. Guests include members of the Notre Dame faculty, visitors who have come to campus to do anything from give a lecture or performance to participate in a fellowship program, and other interesting people we’ve plain cold-emailed and asked to come on the show. But no matter who we’re talking to—or where we’re talking to them from, be it the other side of a table or virtually from that trusty old walk-in closet—we hope you’ll find that you’re glad you stopped by.

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On ‘One Week in America’—Patrick Parr, Author from 2021-11-18T00:00

We started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for informal conversations about their work—but last season, we needed to record remotely. This year we’re e...

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On Foreign Policy and Seeing the Big Picture—Elizabeth Shakman Hurd, Northwestern University from 2021-10-28T00:00

We started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for informal conversations about their work—but last season, we needed to record remotely. This year we’re e...

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On Museum and Library Discovery—Mikala Narlock and Erika Hosselkus, Notre Dame from 2021-10-14T00:00

We started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for informal conversations about their work—but last season, we needed to record remotely. This year we’re e...

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On Medicine, Vietnam, and War Stories—Mike Collins, M.D. and Author from 2021-09-30T00:00

We started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for informal conversations about their work—but last season, we needed to record remotely. This year we’re e...

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Season 5 Trailer from 2021-09-17T11:00

This is a trailer for season 5 of With a Side of Knowledge—which we’re publishing a day after said season launched.

That’s how the pros do it, right?

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On Baseball and Critiquing Things You Love—Katherine Walden, Notre Dame from 2021-09-16T00:00

We started out as the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals to brunch for informal conversations about their work—but last season, we needed to record remotely. This year we’re e...

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On Fashion History and the Human Story—Kimberly Chrisman-Campbell, Author from 2021-04-29T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On 3D Printing and the Rise of Industry 4.0—C. Fred Higgs III, Rice University from 2021-04-15T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On “The State of Science” (Part 2)—Holden Thorp, Science Family of Journals from 2021-04-01T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On “The State of Science” (Part 1)—Holden Thorp, Science Family of Journals from 2021-03-18T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Infrastructure and Engineering Change—Trish Culligan, Notre Dame from 2021-03-04T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On TV Cooking Competitions and Croquembouches—Sinaí Vespie, Chef from 2021-02-18T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Good Science and Ignoring the Noise—Timothy Caulfield, University of Alberta from 2021-02-03T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Mosquito-Borne Diseases and Spatial Repellents—Nicole Achee, Notre Dame from 2021-01-21T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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Happy Author Days: Royal Novelists Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan from 2020-12-18T00:00

We like to try and do something special around the holidays.

In 2019, we counted down our Top 5 most-played episodes of the year. But we thought we’d try something a little different fo...

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Happy Author Days: PEN/Faulkner Winner Azareen Van der Vliet Oloomi from 2020-12-17T00:00

We like to try and do something special around the holidays.

In 2019, we counted down our Top 5 most-played episodes of the year. But we thought we’d try something a little different fo...

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Happy Author Days: Pulitzer Winner Marilynne Robinson from 2020-12-16T00:00

We like to try and do something special around the holidays.

In 2019, we counted down our Top 5 most-played episodes of the year. But we thought we’d try something a little different fo...

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Happy Author Days: Spy Novelist Lauren Wilkinson from 2020-12-15T00:00

We like to try and do something special around the holidays.

In 2019, we counted down our Top 5 most-played episodes of the year. But we thought we’d try something a little different fo...

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Happy Author Days: Ali Biographer Jonathan Eig from 2020-12-14T00:00

We like to try and do something special around the holidays.

In 2019, we counted down our Top 5 most-played episodes of the year. But we thought we’d try something a little different fo...

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What Makes Me Happy: Social Media Manager Liz Harter on *NSYNC (and Others) from 2020-12-10T00:00

We typically host scholars, makers, and professionals for informal conversations about their work—formerly over brunch, currently over Zoom.

But for these bonus mini-episodes, we change...

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On Masterpieces and Mysteries—Jennifer Dasal, ArtCurious from 2020-11-24T11:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Personal Data, Hyper-Targeting, and Privacy—Kirsten Martin, Notre Dame from 2020-11-12T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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From the Archives: Costa, Schmuhl, and a Whole Bunch of Politics (Double Episode) from 2020-10-26T21:00

We’re going to go out on a limb and assume that you’ve heard Election Day is next week. It’s kind of hard to miss.

And while we don’t have a new election-themed episode for you, we did ...

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On Misinformation and Truth Sandwiches—Lisa Fazio, Vanderbilt University from 2020-10-22T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On ‘American Spy’ and Finding It on the Page—Lauren Wilkinson, Author from 2020-10-08T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Royal Novels and Writing Partners—Heather Cocks and Jessica Morgan, Authors from 2020-09-24T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On HQ Trivia, the Attention Economy, and Our Digital Selves—Alyssa Bereznak, The Ringer from 2020-09-10T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Crosswords and ‘Wordplay’—Deb Amlen, The New York Times from 2020-08-27T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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On Research, Universities, and the Love of Dogs—Marie Lynn Miranda, Notre Dame from 2020-08-13T00:00

Before the pandemic, we were the show that invited scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for informal conversations about their work, and we look forward to being that show again one...

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What Makes Me Happy: Journalists Richard Jones and Victoria St. Martin on Prince from 2020-06-29T18:00

We typically invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podcast.

But for these bonus ...

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On Reporting and Politics—Robert Costa, The Washington Post and Washington Week from 2020-06-11T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On AI and Why We Need Humans (and Tiger King)—Mutale Nkonde, AI for the People from 2020-05-28T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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What Makes Me Happy: Philosopher Meghan Sullivan on LEGO from 2020-05-22T00:00

We typically invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podcast.

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On DeLoreans, Autonomous Systems, and the Drive to be Awesome—Jon Goh, Stanford University from 2020-05-14T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Education, Parenting, and Improving Outcomes—Jenni Heissel, Naval Postgraduate School from 2020-04-30T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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What Makes Me Happy: Economist Kasey Buckles on the (Red) Sox from 2020-04-22T21:00

We typically invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podcast.

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On Reindeer Herders and Powerlifting—Cara Ocobock, Notre Dame from 2020-04-16T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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What Makes Me Happy: Biology Ph.D. Candidate Katie O’Reilly on Midwest Pizza from 2020-04-08T14:00

We typically invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podcast.

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On the Smithsonian and Sneaking in the Sidedoor—Lizzie Peabody and Justin O’Neill, Smithsonian Institution from 2020-04-02T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Muhammad Ali and a Knockout Biography—Jonathan Eig, Author from 2020-03-19T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Work, Money, and the Rise of Female Entrepreneurship—Kerry Hannon, Author from 2020-02-27T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On the Rhodes Scholarship and Making Yourself Useful—Prathm Juneja, Notre Dame from 2020-02-13T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On the Presidency and Possibility—Bob Schmuhl, Notre Dame from 2020-01-30T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On the EU, Allies, and the State of European Democracy—Janne Matláry, University of Oslo from 2020-01-16T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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Top 5 Most-Played Episodes of 2019: No. 1 from 2019-12-20T00:00

It’s the end of the year, and we’re counting down our Top 5 most-played episodes of 2019, which spanned parts of our second and (in-progress) third seasons.

Starting Monday, Dec. 16, an...

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Top 5 Most-Played Episodes of 2019: No. 2 from 2019-12-19T00:00

It’s the end of the year, and we’re counting down our Top 5 most-played episodes of 2019, which spanned parts of our second and (in-progress) third seasons.

Starting Monday, Dec. 16, an...

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Top 5 Most-Played Episodes of 2019: No. 3 from 2019-12-18T00:00

It’s the end of the year, and we’re counting down our Top 5 most-played episodes of 2019, which spanned parts of our second and (in-progress) third seasons.

Starting Monday, Dec. 16, an...

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Top 5 Most-Played Episodes of 2019: No. 4 from 2019-12-17T00:00

It’s the end of the year, and we’re counting down our Top 5 most-played episodes of 2019, which spanned parts of our second and (in-progress) third seasons.

Starting Monday, Dec. 16, an...

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Top 5 Most-Played Episodes of 2019: No. 5 from 2019-12-16T00:00

It’s the end of the year, and we’re counting down our Top 5 most-played episodes of 2019, which spanned parts of our second and (in-progress) third seasons.

Starting Monday, Dec. 16, an...

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On Democracy and Difficult Questions—Chris Beem, Penn State University from 2019-12-05T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Movies (and Golden Tickets)—Shea Serrano, The Ringer from 2019-11-21T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On ‘A Dangerous Idea’ and Documentary Filmmaking—Stephanie Welch, Director from 2019-11-07T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Lions and Tigers and ... Okapi?—Josh Sisk, Potawatomi Zoo from 2019-10-24T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On ‘How Charts Lie’ and Increasing Graphicacy—Alberto Cairo, University of Miami from 2019-10-10T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On American Jesuits, Catholicism, and Higher Education—John McGreevy, Notre Dame from 2019-09-26T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Podcast Brunch Club and the Appeal of Audio—Adela Mizrachi, Podcast Brunch Club from 2019-09-12T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Cryptocurrency, Facebook’s Libra, and Data Security—Mike Chapple, Notre Dame from 2019-08-29T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Incredible Women and a Story Too Good to Pass Up—Ann Little, Colorado State University from 2019-08-15T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Exile, Literature, and Feeling Small Before the Page—Azareen Van der Vliet Oloomi, Author from 2019-08-01T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: We invite scholars, makers, and professionals out to brunch for an informal conversation about their work, and then we turn those brunches into a podc...

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On Football Rankings and Measuring Efficiency—Brian Fremeau, FEI from 2019-05-30T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Math, Origami, and How No Discipline is an Island—Clare Kim, MIT from 2019-05-16T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Lowering Barriers and Double Rainbows—Charles Adler, Cofounder of Kickstarter from 2019-05-02T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Enron, Business, and Cover Stories—Bethany McLean, Vanity Fair from 2019-04-18T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Energy and Not Throwing Spaghetti Against the Wall—Rachel Kyte, SEforALL from 2019-04-04T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Publishing and the Love of Books —Jessica Sinsheimer, Literary Agent from 2019-03-21T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Science Podcasting and What Didn’t Happen to the Dinosaurs—Elah Feder and Annie Minoff, Undiscovered from 2019-03-07T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Heroes and Humanity’s Greatest Invention—John Banville, Author from 2019-02-21T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Evolution and Defining Creativity—Agustín Fuentes, Notre Dame from 2019-02-07T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Hercules, Healthcare, and Our Common Finitude—Dan Hinshaw, University of Michigan from 2019-01-24T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Social Media and One in a Trillion Success—Vamsi Kanuri, Notre Dame from 2019-01-10T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Protests, Abraham Lincoln, and Tupac—Lisa Mueller, Macalester College from 2018-12-13T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Shakespeare and Your Magical Self—Madeleine Hyland, Actors From The London Stage from 2018-11-29T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Photography and When Lightning Strikes—Matt Cashore, Notre Dame from 2018-11-15T01:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Good Stories and Coming Along for the Science—Sam Kean, Science Writer from 2018-11-01T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Writing and Saying Something True—Marilynne Robinson, Author from 2018-10-18T00:00

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On Henry David Thoreau of Concord, Mass.—Laura Dassow Walls, Notre Dame from 2018-09-06T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On (TV) Comedies and Not Messing With the Magic—Michael Swanson, NBCUniversal from 2018-08-23T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Big Data and Our Technological Future—Hendrik Hamann, IBM Research from 2018-08-09T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Hamilton and Making the Thing(s)—Patrick Vassel, Hamilton from 2018-07-26T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Real News and Purple Rain—Richard Jones (Notre Dame) and Victoria St. Martin (WNIT) from 2018-07-12T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Probability, Multiverses, and Yogi Berra—Harvey Brown, University of Oxford from 2018-06-28T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Climate and Common Sense—Sally Benson, Stanford University from 2018-06-14T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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On Sleep and Saber-Toothed Tigers—Jessica Payne, Notre Dame from 2018-05-31T00:00

The idea behind this show is pretty simple: A university campus is a destination for all kinds of interesting people, so why not invite some of these folks out to brunch, where we’ll have an inf...

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Preview Episode from 2018-05-06T00:00

"With a Side of Knowledge" is a new podcast produced at the University of Notre Dame. It features interviews with really interesting people from both Notre Dame and elsewhere conducted...

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With a Side of Knowledge
Preview Episode from 2018-05-06T00:00

"With a Side of Knowledge" is a new podcast produced at the University of Notre Dame. It features interviews with really interesting people from both Notre Dame and elsewhere conducted...

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With a Side of Knowledge
Preview Episode from 2018-05-06T00:00

"With a Side of Knowledge" is a new podcast produced at the University of Notre Dame. It features interviews with really interesting people from both Notre Dame and elsewhere conducted...

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