I made Lady Gaga's meat dress - a podcast by BBC World Service

On 12 September 2010 Lady Gaga, won the MTV Video Music Award for Video of the Year.

She accepted the award in a dress made entirely out of beef.

13 years later Franc Fernandez, the man behind the meat dress, speaks to Anoushka Mutanda-Dougherty about his memories of designing the fleshy frock.

He says, pulling apart the flesh and stitching it back together, had "serial killer vibes"!

(Photo: Lady Gaga in the meat dress. Credit: Getty Images)

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