Podcasts by Words Matter
American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. At Words Matter, we believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Our hosts and guests have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, with fellow journalists, elected officials, policy-makers and thought-leaders, they will analyze the week's news and get at the real truth behind all the distracting headlines. New episodes are released on Fridays.
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The First Rule of Congressional Fight Club from 2023-11-17T19:18:12
Norm and Kavita are breaking the rules this week to talk about congressional fight club. With threats of violence by multiple GOP members, its clear that tensions are high as Republicans struggle t...
ListenShould We Be Worried About 2024 Polls? from 2023-11-07T20:05:07
Recent polls on a Biden and Trump showdown in 2024 aren’t great for the incumbent president. But with just under a year to go before the election, how worried should we really be? David Rothkopf jo...
ListenManaging Mental Health with Dr. Ben Miller from 2023-10-30T18:33:11
In the face of such overwhelming bad news, it’s all too easy to feel hopeless. Dr. Ben Miller joins Kavita and Norm to talk about the narrative of mental illness in mass shootings, and shares ways ...
ListenWords Matter - So Close and Yet So Far: The Search for a Speaker from 2023-10-19T18:10
Two failed votes for Jim Jordan later, and the House is still no closer to electing a speaker. Norm and Kavita break down what could come next for a speaker pro tempore-led Congress and where the R...
ListenA Little Bit of Everything with Laurie Garrett from 2023-10-12T17:17:49
With Norm away this week, Kavita is joined by Laurie Garrett for a conversation on a potpourri of topics. From the situation in Israel, to the House speaker race, to updates on COVID, there is a li...
ListenThe Speaker Has Left the Building from 2023-10-06T12:26:56
Another average week for the US Congress. With the shocking removal of Speaker McCarthy by a small cadre of his own party, the divisions within the Republican Party have reached new levels. Thankfu...
ListenR.I.P GOP: A Political Party is a Terrible Thing to Waste from 2023-09-29T15:51
The Republican Party is falling apart before our very eyes. Between the anarchic second presidential debate and the impending threat of a destructive government shutdown, it’s clear that the party ...
ListenRantapalooza: Norm and David are Triggered from 2023-09-22T14:00
Norm and David are not happy, and for good reason.The latest judiciary committee hearing reminds us all how far down the rabbit hole the Republican party has gone in the pursuit of scorched-earth p...
ListenIs It Time For a New Generation? The Narrative Around Joe Biden from 2023-09-15T16:20:19
It is no secret that the media remains hyper-focused on Joe Biden’s age and the growing desire for a younger generation of politicians. As the election cycle continues to ramp up, Norm and Kavita b...
ListenGeorgia’s Special Grand Jury Is On My Mind from 2023-09-08T18:11
The latest special grand jury report from Georgia reveals recommended charges against 39 people including Senator Lindsey Graham. With Senator Graham and other high-profile individuals being named,...
ListenBack to School Special: Trials and Tribulations from 2023-08-31T16:54:57
School is back in session this week as Norm and Kavita tackle the latest in Trump's many trials. Trump remains the frontrunner despite a deluge of legal woes, but new information coming to light da...
ListenSpecial Edition: After a Lightweight Debate on to Weightier Issues from 2023-08-24T17:30:55
Last night’s Republican debate may not have had a clear winner, but America was the clear loser. In this special episode, David Rothkopf joins Kavita Patel and Norm Ornstein to discuss the Republic...
ListenBest Of - On the Fringe No Longer: Republicans Mainstream the Extreme from 2023-08-18T15:46:33
Norm and Kavita are taking a much deserved break this week, so we're bringing you one of the best episodes of 2022. Original Description:July 23, 2022 On this week's episode, we talk about how the ...
ListenWill Legal Drama Actually Empower Trump? from 2023-08-11T14:00:27
With the sound defeat of Issue 1 in Ohio, Norm and Kavita discuss whether Democrats can apply the lessons learned to 2024. Also on the agenda are the latest developments with Trump’s documents case...
ListenBreaking Down the January 6th Indictment from 2023-08-04T14:00
If you've been watching as much coverage of the indictment as we have, then you're probably more confused than ever. Norm and Kavita are here to make sense of it all, discussing what the indictment...
ListenIf You Can’t Take the Heat… Talking Climate, the Border, and More from 2023-07-27T17:06
It’s hot here in DC, but we’re not alone. Norm and Kavita talk climate change and what the administration can do to combat disinformation to change the conversation around climate. Additionally, we...
ListenThe Republicans' Race to the Bottom with Mary Trump from 2023-07-21T14:00
The Republican party is not sending their best. With the 2024 election cycle ramping up, Norm and guest Mary Trump break down the lackluster field of Republican candidates and the issues propelling...
ListenThe Economy Under Biden is Great; Why Don’t We Act Like It? from 2023-07-14T15:37:28
With the economy continuing to rally despite the odds, why are conversations about Biden’s economic performance so negative? Norm and Kavita discuss why voters have differing perceptions of the eco...
ListenHow the Biden Administration Can Fix the Agencies Trump Broke from 2023-07-07T16:41
With recent developments around the indictment of Donald Trump, Norm and Kavita discuss how the executive branch and Congress can work to repair agencies damaged by the Trump presidency. Looking to...
ListenSupreme Court Strikes Down Affirmative Action from 2023-06-30T20:48:18
Norm and Kavita are back to discuss today’s headline story; the Supreme Court’s decision striking down Affirmative Action. Norm and Kavita break down the implications of the ruling, as well as the ...
ListenSupreme Court Rules On Biden’s Immigration Guidelines, Justice Alito and More from 2023-06-23T19:51:22
Norm and Kavita are back this week to discuss the 8-1 ruling in favor of the Biden administration’s immigration enforcement guidelines. From there, they turn their attention to Justice Alito, who e...
ListenCheck Your Blood Pressure Before You Listen to this Episode from 2023-06-16T14:08:59
The lies and deflections from Republicans defending Trump have spun up the ire of "Words Matter" co-host Norm Ornstein. So in this episode he not only explains why but guest co-host David Rothkopf ...
ListenWe Have a Debt Ceiling Deal! from 2023-06-02T15:30:57
Norm and Kavita discuss the passing of the debt ceiling deal in the House of Representatives. Since taping, the bill also passed the Senate and is expected to be signed as early as Friday, June 2, ...
ListenDeSantis Announces Candidacy from 2023-05-26T04:00
Norm and Kavita are both traveling, but that doesn’t stop them from discussing the issues. This week, in this abbreviated version of Words Matter, Norm and Kavita discuss Ron DeSantis’s presidentia...
ListenWords Matter: Have We Turned the Corner on the Debt Ceiling Negotiations? from 2023-05-19T04:00
This week, Norm and Kavita discuss the latest developments in the negotiations between the White House and lawmakers on the debt ceiling. In the members only segment, they discuss some wins for Dem...
ListenJustice is Being Served from 2023-05-12T13:45:22
This week, Norm and Kavita discuss the E. Jean Carroll Civil verdict and Trump’s CNN town hall meeting. In the bonus section, they discuss Congressman’s Santos’ legal woes and the latest in the deb...
ListenThe Latest on the Debt Ceiling, Trump's Legal Woes, Clarence Thomas Payments, The Proud Boys Convictions from 2023-05-06T00:27:48
On this week's episode of Words Matter, Norm and Kavita discuss the latest developments on the debt ceiling, the Seditious Conspiracy convictions of the Proud Boys, Trump's legal woes and Clarence ...
ListenToo Numerous To Count (TNTC) from 2023-04-28T13:02:23
This week, as Kavita so eloquently put it, there are so many issues to discuss. Norm and Kavita tackle the debt ceiling, touch on the Disney/DeSantis dispute and in the members only section, discus...
ListenCould the US Default on its Debt? from 2023-04-21T17:30:04
On this week’s episode of Words Matter, Norm and Kavita discuss the GOP’s debt ceiling proposal. In the members only section, Norm and Kavita discuss the situation with Dianne Feinstein and how it’...
ListenWhy Does the Judiciary Branch Wield So Much Power? from 2023-04-14T14:42:22
On this week’s episode of Words Matter, Norm and Kavita discuss a number of judiciary issues, including reproductive health. In a special extended bonus section, Norm and Kavita tackle Clarence Tho...
ListenWhy Can't We Have an "Operation Indictment Warpspeed?" from 2023-04-07T04:00
Note: This episode was taped prior to the announced indictments of Donald Trump. The absence of real indictments against Donald Trump allows him to set the narrative. That's not a good thing. So ma...
ListenSue the Gunmakers, Tax the Bullets, Just Do Something! from 2023-03-31T12:00
In the wake of yet another tragic mass shooting--and we're averaging two per day this year in the US--Americans are again asking the question what can be done. The response of the GOP: "Nothing." T...
ListenThe Politics of Justice from 2023-03-24T22:00
Trump might finally be indicted but what impact will that have on the political landscape? Kavita and Norm seek to answer that question during this engaging conversation. Members get a bonus conver...
ListenBail outs for thee but not for me? from 2023-03-17T20:51:56
Silicon Valley Bank collapsed in spectacular fashion last week but the Biden administration stepped in to save its depositors. Was that the right thing to do and what can prevent things like this h...
ListenOur Two Speed Country from 2023-03-10T23:00
From the media and books to drag shows and voting, states is in the South have been trying to turn back the clock. Kavita and Norm talk about these updates, what they mean for the country as a whol...
ListenLab Leaks and Committees Speak from 2023-03-03T23:07:45
Congress is back in session and there is lots of news. First Kavita and Norm talk about the Department of Energy's report around the "Lab Leak" theory and then they discuss Attorney General Merrick...
ListenEast Palestine's toxic plume and America's toxic politics from 2023-02-24T22:29:32
Kavita is back from her trip but the problems in the country haven't moved much. The train derailment in East Palestine has caused concerns about environmental and health impacts while the right-wi...
ListenNikki Haley Jumps In from 2023-02-17T22:32:22
On this week's episode, Kavita is still out of town. So Norm and producer Grant Haver talk Nikki Haley getting into the Presidential race, her potential candidacy, and what this means for the futur...
ListenThe State of Our Union Is.... from 2023-02-10T23:00:04
On this week's episode, Kavita is still out of town. So Norm and producer Grant Haver talk about the State of the Union, what it says about the future prospects for Joe Biden, and if it matters. Me...
ListenModernizing Congress with Rep. Derek Kilmer from 2023-02-04T02:29:02
On this week's episode, Norm talks with Representative Derek Kilmer (WA-6) about his work as the Chair of the Modernizing Congress Committee, what they were able to accomplish, and what work is lef...
ListenWhat to do when the government does nothing about guns from 2023-01-27T22:42:55
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the never ending cycle of gun violence in the United States and what communities should do since the government is incapable of making progress on...
ListenAmerica at the (debt) limit from 2023-01-20T22:23:38
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the debt limit, what the U.S. can do at this point to pay its bills, and where we expect this to end. Members get a bonus conversation about the W...
ListenSeeking a Speaker from 2023-01-06T21:04:18
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about Kevin McCarthy's quixotic quest to become speaker of the House and what it means for average Americans. What does this clown show mean for the mos...
ListenBest Of: Walker, Oz, and What Happens if They Win? from 2022-12-30T23:00
Originally Aired: October 8, 2022 On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the Senate races in Georgia and Pennsylvania. In the bonus segment, Words Matter Producer Grant Haver talks with...
ListenBest Of: New York, Florida, and Dark Money Matters from 2022-12-29T23:00
Originally Aired: August 26, 2022 On this week's episode, we talk about the primaries in New York and Florida as well as the news the Leonard Leo now has over one billion dollars to spend on conser...
ListenBest Of: Midterm Madness from 2022-12-28T23:00
Originally Aired: August 12, 2022 On this week's episode, we talk about all the races we are following for the midterms, and our campaign experiences. You won't want to miss it!Learn more about you...
ListenBest Of: The IRA Under the Microscope from 2022-12-27T23:00
Originally Aired: September 2, 2022 On this week's episode, we do a deep dive on the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. In the bonus segment, Norm talks about the latest Trump crime news and Biden's ...
ListenBest Of: Views from the Road: Liz Cheney, John Fetterman, and Chautauqua from 2022-12-26T23:00
Originally Aired: August 19, 2022 On this week's episode, we talk about Liz Cheney's defeat, the senate race in pennsylvania, and we get the view from Chautauqua. You won't want to miss it!Learn mo...
ListenHoliday Mailbag from 2022-12-23T23:00
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita answer your questions about everything from how to fix the Republican party, what policies are dividing the Democratic party, and much more. Members of the D...
ListenThe Final Days of the 117th Congress from 2022-12-16T22:22:12
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita discuss what Congress needs to do before the holidays. Members of the DSR Network get access to a bonus conversation about the recently released texts from R...
ListenSenator Warnock (D-GA) and Senator Sinema (I-AZ) from 2022-12-09T22:52:29
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita discuss Senator Warnock winning his run off race and what that means for his political ambitions and the Senate. They also discuss how the changing order of ...
ListenThe Lame Duck Congress from 2022-12-02T23:00
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita discuss what remains on the agenda for the lame duck Congress including issues like the debt limit and the looming threat of a railroad strike. Members of th...
ListenBest Of: The January 6th Hearings and the Ongoing Coup from 2022-11-18T23:00
Originally Aired: June 17, 2022 On this week's episode, we talk about the January 6th committee hearings, the Republican candidates for office that believe in thebig lie, and how the media is talki...
ListenMidterm Reflections from 2022-11-11T23:00
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita provide their analysis of the midterms, discuss what they got right (and wrong) heading in, and where this goes from here. Members of the DSR Network get a b...
ListenThe Last One Before The Midterms from 2022-11-04T22:00
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenA Woman, Her Doctor, and the Debate Between Oz and Fetterman from 2022-10-28T21:08:13
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenDebating Debates from 2022-10-21T23:15:06
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the recent debates in races across the country including Marco Rubio v. Val Demings, Tim Ryan v. JD Vance, and Raphael Warnock v. Herschel Walker....
ListenThe Elections Up And Down The Ballot from 2022-10-14T22:52:08
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk about the Senate races in North Carolina and Nevada as well as state and local races vital to defending democracy. Learn more about your ad choices. Vi...
ListenWalker, Oz, and What Happens if They Win? from 2022-10-08T15:53:06
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenThe polls and polling with Anna Greenberg from 2022-09-30T19:52:28
On this week's episode, Norm and Kavita talk with Anna Greenberg of GQR about the polls headed into the midterms and the broader conversation around the value of public polling in our extremely par...
ListenPolitical Stunts and Immigration Policy from 2022-09-23T21:12:42
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenFreight and Foreign Policy from 2022-09-16T19:58:46
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenThe State of Labor on Labor Day from 2022-09-09T19:18:16
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenThe IRA Under the Microscope from 2022-09-02T21:38:20
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenNew York, Florida, and Dark Money Matters from 2022-08-26T21:02:23
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the show and ...
ListenViews from the Road: Liz Cheney, John Fetterman, and Chautauqua from 2022-08-19T23:00
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the s...
ListenMidterm Madness from 2022-08-12T20:55:20
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the s...
ListenPolitical Potpourri: Biden's Messaging Problem, Abortion in Idaho and Kansas, and January 6th from 2022-08-05T22:00
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the s...
ListenIt's the Economy, Stupid! from 2022-07-29T20:28:39
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the s...
ListenOn the Fringe No Longer: Republicans Mainstream the Extreme from 2022-07-22T22:00
Each week, Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel, we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and doing about them. We hope you like the s...
ListenIt's All Healthcare: COVID, MonkeyPox, and Abortion from 2022-07-15T20:45:59
On this week's episode, we talk the continued COVID-19 pandemic, the rise of Monkeypox, and, for members, the current state of reproductive rights. We ground all of our analysis in the words Antony...
ListenIt's All Healthcare: COVID, MonkeyPox, and Abortion from 2022-07-15T20:45:59
On this week's episode, we talk the continued COVID-19 pandemic, the rise of Monkeypox, and, for members, the current state of reproductive rights. We ground all of our analysis in the words Antony...
ListenThe Bill of Rights and the Continued Fight for Freedom from 2022-07-09T00:31
We're relaunching the show with new hosts Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel. Each week we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and...
ListenSupreme Injustices from 2022-07-01T20:46:55
We're relaunching the show with new hosts Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel. Each week we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and...
ListenThe January 6th Hearings and the Ongoing Coup from 2022-06-17T23:05:46
We're relaunching the show with new hosts Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel. Each week we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying and...
ListenGuns: What Are They Good For? from 2022-06-06T23:13:39
We're relaunching the show with new hosts Norm Ornstein and Kavita Patel. Each week we will talk about the issues facing our country as we head into the midterms and what our leaders are saying an...
ListenVotes Matter: Counting to Nine on Abortion Rights from 2021-12-09T14:41:25
The Supreme Court is poised to overturn Roe v. Wade — or at least change the abortion-rights landscape dramatically. Katie sits down with Sarah Isgur and David French of The Dispatch to answer the ...
ListenAmerican's Mission Statement read by Senator John F. Kennedy from 2021-07-05T03:54:34
On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statement. ...
ListenBarack Obama's Eulogy for the Honorable Reverend Clementa Pinckney from 2021-06-21T07:05:52
On June 26th 2015 President Barack Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Listen
American History Tellers -- Lindsay Graham Interview from 2021-06-14T07:05:21
Not THAT Lindsay Graham. This week we profile one of our favorite podcasts American Histor...
ListenPresident John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights from 2021-06-07T13:08:07
This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.
By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been...
ListenENCORE: Hill Women - with Cassie Chambers from 2021-05-17T07:05:08
Our guest this week is a writer, lawyer, speaker and an advocate. Cassie Chambers grew up in Eastern Kentucky, graduated from Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of...
ListenENCORE: FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 2 from 2021-05-10T07:05:36
This week we welcome back historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 2 Listen
SpyTalk: Shots in the Dark from 2021-05-09T22:55:47
Jeanne Meserve looks into the mysterious directed-energy attacks on officials in Washington with Mark Zaid, lawyer for CIA and State Department victims. Then Ronen Bergman, author ... Listen
ENCORE: FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 1 from 2021-05-03T07:05:21
This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 1 of ...
ListenSpyTalk: A CIA Spy in Syria, and US Responses to Russian, Chinese and Other Adversary Hacking from 2021-05-02T23:40:32
This week, in the debut edition of the SpyTalk podcast, co-host Jeff Stein talks to the Washington Post’s Joby Warrick about an extraordinary CIA operation in Syria, as told in his new ... Listen
A Tribute to Walter Mondale from 2021-04-26T07:05:41
Walter Frederick "Fritz" Mondale (January 5, 1928 – April 19, 2021) was a politician, statesman, diplomat, and lawyer who served...
ListenDeep State Radio: A Tale of Two COVIDS from 2021-04-22T14:47:13
On the one hand, America's vaccine roll out is making great progress. On the other, in the last week COVID cases are on the rise in 38 states. On the one hand, the Moderna and... Listen
Columbine - 22 years Later from 2021-04-19T07:05:56
The shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado happened 22 years ago this ...
Listen"Good Trouble" with John Lewis from 2021-04-12T07:05:50
John Robert Lewis was a politician, statesman, and civil righ...
ListenDeep State Radio: It's Not Too Early to Predict What Biden Era Politics Will Be Like from 2021-04-10T15:53:51
By this time during the presidency of the former guy, his national security advisor had been booted, the Muslim ban had been tried and Comey was days from getting fired. We also kn... Listen
Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. - "I've Been to the Mountain Top" from 2021-04-05T10:57:54
On April 3, 1968 the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was in Memphis, Tennessee to lend his support, his help, and his leadership to the Listen
Deep State Radio: One-on-one with Gayle Tzemach Lemmon: Why It is So Important to Tell the Stories of Heroic Women from 2021-04-03T14:55:33
Too much of world history is written by men about men for men. The result is that cultural biases of a male-centric world are reinforced. But another consequence is that ... Listen
Preview: SPY AFFAIR from Wondery from 2021-03-30T07:59
A charismatic Russian woman arrives in the US on a mission to improve relations between the two countries, and she soon makes some powerful friends. But who is Maria Butina? And who is ... Listen
Geraldine Ferraro Becomes the First Woman on a National Ticket from 2021-03-29T07:05:07
Geraldine Ferraro was a politician, diplomat, attorney - and also a teacher, activist, author, and businesswoman.
The daughter of an Italian immigrant, Geraldine lost her father ...
ListenDeep State Radio: When Can We Go To War and Who Decides? from 2021-03-28T23:46:11
Few decisions a government can make are more consequential than deciding when the use of force is warranted. In the US a debate has raged for decades about how much latitude a... Listen
Maya Angelou at Spelman College from 2021-03-23T17:18:33
Dr. Maya Angelou was a poet, professor, memoirist, actor, singer, author, educator and Listen
Angela Davis and the Importance of Academic Freedom from 2021-03-15T07:05:41
Dr. Angela Davis is an activist, philosopher, academic and author.
Born in Birmingham, Alabama during World War II - she attended segregated black elementary and midd...
ListenEleanor Roosevelt and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights from 2021-03-08T08:05:41
This week, in honor of Women’s History Month, we wanted to pay tribute to one of the most consequential le...
ListenDeep State Radio: Washington Got You Pissed Off? Us Too! from 2021-03-06T13:05:08
Weren't we supposed to get a break from being angry at DC? At the political inanity? The recklessness? The law breaking with impunity? Sure its the same old people being inane... Listen
Shirley Chisholm - Black Feminist Pioneer from 2021-02-26T22:32:37
As Black History Month ends and Women’s History Month begins, we wanted to honor a pioneer in the struggle for equal rights for both movements.
Shirley Anita Chisholm ...
ListenDeep State Radio: The Accountability Conundrum: How Do We Form Commissions to Investigate 1/6 or COVID in the Current Political Environment? from 2021-02-26T15:50:55
When the 9/11 Commission was formed in the wake of the Al Qaeda attacks on the US, the current was united in grief and anger but politically polarized and it was very difficult to find a path fo...
ListenMalcolm X - "The Ballot or the Bullet" from 2021-02-22T08:05:19
He was born Malcolm Little in Omaha, Nebraska- and he became one of the most celebrated, influential and misunderstood leaders of the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s
Deep State Radio: On January 6, the Noose Was for Mike Pence...Now a Legal Noose Is Tightening Around Trump from 2021-02-19T21:06:31
While Trumpists may have celebrated that the disgraced former president was not convicted by the Senate and the Senators who voted to convict have been attacked for their show of consci... Listen
Senate Chaplain, Rear Admiral (Ret.) Barry C. Black from 2021-02-15T08:05:55
Last week, as the House Managers presented their Impeachment case -- a step-by-step, rigorous, fact-based prosecution that clearly drew the connection between Donald Trump’s words and the violen...
ListenDeep State Radio: When is an Open and Shut Case Not an Open and Shut Case? from 2021-02-12T14:22:42
The House Impeachment managers proved beyond any reasonable doubt that Donald Trump incited an insurrection against the US government that resulted in six deaths over 140 injuries and p... Listen
The Legendary Barbara Jordan on Impeachment from 2021-02-08T08:05:32
Barbara Jordan was a lawyer educator politician and a leader of the civil rights movement a Democrat and Houston native. Jordan was the first African-American elected to the Texas Senate after R...
ListenDeep State Radio: In Search of the Republican "Taliban We Can Work With" from 2021-02-05T15:46:25
Has the GOP lost its mind? Or is its embrace and defense of lunatics, violent extremists, traitors, sex offenders, racists and the highly corrupt a shrewd, carefully considered pol... Listen
Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Impeachment from 2021-02-01T08:05:15
As it looks more and more likely that the Republicans in the Senate will not hold former President Donald Trump accountable for his actions in inciting an insurrection against the United States,...
ListenDeep State Radio: Was Trump's Coup Attempt on January 6th the Start of Something Much Worse? from 2021-01-29T14:30:59
While some may look at the Trump coup attempt on January 6th as the last desperate act of the disgraced former president to remain in power, it is already being seen among white suprema... Listen
INAUGURATION SPECIAL: Amanda Gorman, Lady Gaga & Joe Biden from 2021-01-25T12:15:44
Last week, after 4 long, divisive and tragic years, we witnessed the continuation of a 244-year-old American tradition.
It was not a peaceful transfer of power. As incoming White House Chi...
ListenDeep State Radio: Three Wednesdays - Storming the Capitol, Impeachment & Inauguration...Where Does It Leave the Average American? from 2021-01-22T15:48:38
The past two weeks are unlike any America has ever seen. In the midst of a national pandemic and economic crisis, we saw an unprecedented insurrection on Capitol Hill incited by ou... Listen
In Honor of Dr. Martin Luther King - "A Letter from Birmingham Jail" from 2021-01-18T08:05:56
Last week would have been the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s 92nd birthday. Given all that has happened over the last year and the last few weeks, we wanted to highlight one of the most sign...
ListenDeep State Radio: Ask the Experts - How Do We Make January 6 a Positive Turning Point for America? from 2021-01-15T18:18:51
We have never seen events like those that occurred on January 6. We have never had a president who posed the kind of threat to our security presented by Donald Trump. We ... Listen
ENCORE: Stacey Abrams from 2021-01-11T08:05:52
We honored to be joined this week by New York Times bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, nonprofit CEO and political leader Stacey Abrams. In 2018, after serving for eleven years in the Geor...
ListenDeep State Radio: The Trump Coup - A Week in Washington Like No Other from 2021-01-08T15:00:28
In the midst of a pandemic, with almost 4000 people dying every day, when the nation should be coming together, the President of the United States once again tore it asunder. Worse... Listen
Deep State Radio: Why Having the Most Diverse Cabinet in History Matters from 2021-01-06T18:32:45
Joe Biden's cabinet will look more like America than any in our history. It will contain more women, more people of color, a wide range of ages, political perspectives and regional... Listen
FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 2 from 2021-01-04T08:05:25
This week we welcome back historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 2 Listen
ENCORE: His Very Best with Jonathan Alter from 2020-12-28T08:05:01
Jonathan Alter is a best-selling author, Listen
FDR on Democracy with Professor Harvey Kaye - Part 1 from 2020-12-21T08:05:41
This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye for Part 1 of ...
ListenThe intersection of Wall Street & Washington with William D. Cohan from 2020-12-14T08:05:58
William D. Cohan is a special correspondent for Listen
Deep State Radio: Trump's Endgame: How Bad Can it Get? from 2020-12-12T16:19:34
Despite his historic losing streak in the courts (not to mention his big election loss), Donald Trump continues to argue he was robbed. And many in his own party are supporting Tru... Listen
Deep State Radio: The One in Which They Scare the Shit Out of You from 2020-12-08T19:56:59
We are about to enter a period of national catastrophe unlike any we have ever seen, unlike the past year, unlike wars through which we have lived. Mass death during this time is p... Listen
Fox News "Hoax" with Brian Stelter from 2020-12-07T08:05:47
Brian Stelter, host of Listen
Make America RADICAL Again with Harvey Kaye from 2020-11-30T08:05:53
This week we welcome historian and sociologist Harvey J. Kaye to discuss his important book <...
ListenDeep State Radio: Megashocker - A Normal Conversation About Policy and Politics from 2020-11-27T08:05:05
We go where no one else dares: To imagine a Trumpless future, a normal American president doing normal American president-y things like making domestic and foreign policy, succeedi... Listen
How to Connect Across the Political Divide with Tania Israel from 2020-11-23T08:05:25
Tania Israel is an award winning psychologist,, professor, author, activist, speaker, researcher, and counselor. As well as an occasional playwright, actor and lyricist.Listen
Deep State Radio: Are We Entering What Will Be the Least Festive Holiday Season in Our Lifetimes? from 2020-11-17T10:13:59
With COVID spiking we will pass over 450,000 dead of the pandemic within months. Hospitals and morgues are being stretched past capacity. The White House has given up doing an... Listen
His Very Best with Jonathan Alter from 2020-11-16T12:03
Jonathan Alter is a best-selling author, Listen
Deep State Radio: After the Past Four Years, Do We Have Enough Energy to Celebrate Properly? from 2020-11-11T21:49:10
As of the recording of this edition of Deep State Radio, no victor had been called in the presidential race. But it seems likely Joe Biden is the next president of the United States. Will w...
ListenShe the People with Aimee Allison from 2020-11-09T08:05:39
Aimee Allison is founder and president of She the People, a national network elevating...
Listen"Our Voices, Our Vote" with Wesley Lowery from 2020-11-02T08:05:55
Katie and Jen sit down with award-winning journalist and author, Wesley Lowery. Wesley has rep...
ListenDeep State Radio: Can We Get There From Here: The Precarious Path to "The Third Reconstruction" from 2020-10-31T09:40:39
A Democratic victory in the 2020 elections is not a sure thing. As we have discussed on other episodes, the elections are fraught with risks. Further, once an election takes place, the...
ListenDeep State Radio: The View from Inside the Trump White House: It Ain’t Pretty from 2020-10-27T07:05:08
Some of the most hard-hitting and shocking criticisms of Donald Trump have come from insiders in his administration. From Rex Tillerson’s calling his former boss a “fucking moron” to h...
ListenThe Debate about Debates - with Susan Page from 2020-10-26T07:05:53
This week Katie and Jennifer are joined by award-winning journalist, author and the Washington Bureau Chief for USA Today, Susan Page.
Susan has covered six White House administrations...
ListenDeep State Radio: A Song of Fire and Ice...and Cyber and Terrorists and Lawyers from 2020-10-20T07:05
In Game of Thrones leadership decisions were made with the help of dragons and Moon Doors and Valyrian steel daggers. In America today, people play just as rough but their too... Listen
SCOTUS on the Hot Seat from 2020-10-19T07:05:53
This week, Jennifer Duck, Emmy award-winning producer and instructor of journalism in the department of Cinema, Media and Television questions Katie about the Senate Judiciary Committee for the ...
ListenDSR: The 3 a.m. Call is Coming from Inside the White House from 2020-10-13T07:05:46
The biggest national security story in America today is the biggest domestic story and the biggest political story and the biggest economic story and the biggest public health stor... Listen
Spot the Troll: Social Media & the 2020 Campaign from 2020-10-12T07:05:43
Katie and Jennifer Duck talk to Clemson University Professor Darren Linvill a...
ListenOctober Surprises - What's Next? from 2020-10-05T07:05:33
Deep State Radio: Our Unfolding Democratic Emergency: The Red Lights are Already Flashing from 2020-10-02T07:05:40
The Constitutional rot of the past four years has set the stage for the corruption of our institutions and, equally importantly, for growing delegitimization of our government. Thi... Listen
Audience of One: Donald Trump, Television, & the Fracturing of America from 2020-09-28T07:05
It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. Listen
Deep State Radio: Have We Already Seen the October Surprise? from 2020-09-26T02:12:50
Is a resurgent COVID the October Surprise? Is it the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg? Will it be the nomination and approval of a replacement for her prior to the election? Wi... Listen
The Ginsburg Tapes - In Memory of Ruth Bader Ginsburg from 2020-09-21T07:07:39
Last week, America lost an iconic jurist and a life long advocate for equal rights. In memory of the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsburg, we replay Katie's interview with Listen
"HOAX" with Brian Stelter from 2020-09-14T07:05:36
Brian Stelter, host of Listen
"If you don't know, now you know - with Congressman Hakeem Jeffries from 2020-09-07T07:05:14
The Barlow Group: "Rainbows & Rainclouds" with Jen Psaki and Paul Begala from 2020-08-31T07:05:04
Trump's "Magic Dust" with Michael Steele from 2020-08-24T07:05:31
Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about the virtual Republican National Convention, the future of his party, and Donald Trump’s “magic dust” with vot...
ListenGovernor Terry McAuliffe from 2020-08-17T07:05:10
Former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart to talk about Vice Presidential Nominee Kamala Harris, the virtual Democratic National Convention and the 3rd Anniver...
Listen"The Austin Powers Candidate" with Doug Sosnik from 2020-08-10T08:19:32
Former White House Political Director Doug Sosnik joins Katie Barlow and Joe Lockhart for an update on the 2020 elections. Sosnik explains how 2016 and 2020 are vastly different for President Tr...
ListenAn Interview with Rod Rosenstein from 2020-08-03T07:05:46
Our guest today served as the 37th Deputy Attorney General o...
ListenKatie and Joe Return from 2020-07-27T07:05:08
We're back! This week Katie and Joe officially return with a thank you and a message for our listeners.
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Presidential Words Matter: FDR at the 1936 Democratic Convention from 2020-07-20T07:05:13
Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spoken by the president of the United States, we thought it migh...
ListenPresidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan on the Challenger Disaster from 2020-07-13T07:05:16
The Space shuttle Challenger’s launch had already been delayed twice when it finally took off on January 28th 1986.
This particular launch was widely publicized because for the first...
ListenAmerica's Mission Statement - Read by John F. Kennedy from 2020-07-06T07:05:22
On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statemen...
ListenPreview - GURU: The Dark Side of Enlightenment from 2020-07-01T20:31:34
Wondery has new tru-crime mini series that we think you’ll really enjoy.
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Presidential Words Matter: Bill Clinton "Time for Healing" - Oklahoma City, 1995 from 2020-06-29T07:10:38
This week on Presidential Words Matter - we highlight Bill Clinton’s remarks in the aftermath of the 1995 Oklahoma City Bombing.
On April 19, 1995 ?a Listen
Presidential Words Matter: Barack Obama's Eulogy for the Honorable Reverend Clementa Pinckney from 2020-06-22T12:55:31
On June 26th 2015 President Barack Obama delivered the eulogy at the funeral of the Reverend Listen
Presidential Words Matter: LBJ 1965 Howard University Commencement Address from 2020-06-15T07:05:01
On June 4, 1965, President Johnson delivered the commencement address at Howard University, the nation’s most prominent historically black university.
?In his address, Johnson explained wh...
ListenENCORE: President John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights from 2020-06-11T13:45:37
This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.
By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has been...
ListenLetter from a Birmingham Jail: Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. from 2020-06-08T07:05:49
This week we highlight one of the most significant and consequential calls for racial equality and social justice in American History - “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”
On Good Friday, ...
ListenPresidential Words Matter: George W. Bush at the National Cathedral from 2020-06-01T07:05:14
This week we focus on leadership and comfort in a time of national tragedy, crisis and mourning.
On September 14th 2001 - President George W. Bush spoke at the National Cathedral in Wa...
ListenPresidential Words Matter: John F. Kennedy on Civil Rights from 2020-05-25T07:05:49
This week we highlight presidential leadership and one of the most important civil rights speeches ever delivered by a sitting American president.
By June of 1963, John F. Kennedy has ...
ListenPreview: The Daily Smile from 2020-05-19T00:01:26
Everyone needs a reminder about just how good people can be. On Wondery’s new series
Presidential Words Matter: Ronald Reagan's Farewell Address from 2020-05-18T07:05:25
In January of 1989 after 8 years in office, President Ronald Reagan delivered his 34th and final Oval Office address.
His tenure was not without controversy - and there is much about Reaga...
ListenENCORE: The 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik from 2020-05-11T07:05:01
Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35 years. Listen
SPECIAL: A Tribute to Tim Russert from 2020-05-07T07:05:32
Today, on what would have been his 70th birthday, we pay tribute to the late, great Tim Russert ...
ListenPresidential Words Matter: FDR 1936 Democratic Convention from 2020-05-04T07:05:03
This week, we begin a new series, Presidential Words Matter. Since we currently have a president who doesn't seem to know or even understand the importance of words, especially when they are spo...
ListenENCORE: Cindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour from 2020-04-27T07:05:19
Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Listen
American Scandal Preview from 2020-04-22T07:05:28
This week, we want you to join one of our favorite hosts, Lindsey Graham of -- American Scandal and American History Tellers -- as he previews his new six-part series, "Listen
ENCORE: House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff from 2020-04-20T07:15:03
Back in December Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congre...
ListenENCORE: The Contenders with Walter Mondale from 2020-04-13T07:05:42
The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and inf...
ListenHow To Save Your Soul In America - with R. Eric Thomas from 2020-04-06T07:05:49
Our guest today is a senior staff writer at ELLE.com where he has written the daily pop c...
ListenHill Women - with Cassie Chambers from 2020-03-30T07:05:48
Our guest this week is a writer, lawyer, speaker and an advocate. Cassie Chambers grew up in Eastern Kentucky, graduated from Yale College, the Yale School of Public Health, the London School of...
ListenThe Contenders: Michael Dukakis from 2020-03-23T07:05:51
In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- the sixty fifth governor of Massachusetts from 1975 to 1979. Four years later, Michael Dukakis became the sixt...
ListenThe Contenders: Howard Dean from 2020-03-16T07:05:21
In the latest of Joe's special series - The Contenders -- he interviews author, medical doctor, and from 1991 to 2003 the 79th governor of Vermont. In 2004, Howard Dean...
ListenStacey Abrams from 2020-03-09T07:05:33
Katie and Joe are honored to be joined this week by New York Times bestselling author, serial entrepreneur, nonprofit CEO and political leader Stacey Abrams. In 2018, after serving for eleven ye...
ListenThe Presidency & Pandemics from 2020-03-02T08:05:26
Since World War 2, US presidents have had to deal with pandemics as part of their job – the Eisenhower Administration fast-tracked the polio vaccine. Gerald Ford dealt with Swine Flu, Ronald Rea...
ListenThe 2020 Political Landscape with Doug Sosnik from 2020-02-24T08:05:37
This week Katie and Joe sit down with best-selling author and political analyst Doug Sosnik. He has advised presidents, senators, governors, Fortune 100 corporations and universities for 35...
ListenNew Hampshire and Trouble at Justice with Dana Milbank from 2020-02-17T08:05:31
This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning journalist, best-selling author and nationally syndicated columnist for the Washington Post, Dana Milbank.
The Primaries Begin with Jen Psaki from 2020-02-10T08:05:56
Impeachment is over and the Democratic primaries begin. This week Katie and Joe sit down with campaign veteran and former White House Communications Director under President Obama, Jen Psaki. Th...
ListenThe Impeachment Non-Trial with Elie Honig from 2020-02-03T08:05:46
The US Senate refuses to hear witnesses in the Impeachment Trial of Donald J. Trump. Joe and guest Elie Honig breakdown what happened and what may happen next.
Elie Honig is a former...
ListenWords Matter Library: WeCrashed Preview from 2020-01-29T08:05:44
The Rise and Fall of WeWork is a stunning story of hope and hubris. WeWork was the poster child for a new economy. Its founders wanted to revolutionize everything about the way people lived thei...
ListenImpeachment Trial Continues from 2020-01-27T08:05:47
For only the 3rd time in American history, the President of the United States stands trial in the United States Senate for "high crimes and misdemeanors. Katie and Joe breakdown what's happened ...
ListenWords Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan, American Visionary from 2020-01-23T08:05:14
Senate Impeachment Trial Begins with Nina Totenberg from 2020-01-20T08:05:29
For only the 3rd time in American History, the Impeachment Trial of a President of the United States began last week in the United States Senate.
Legendary NPR Correspondent Nina Toten...
ListenA World in Disarray with Richard Haass from 2020-01-13T08:05:57
Richard Haass is President of the Council on Foreign Relations. He is a veteran diplomat and the author or editor of more than a dozen books including the forthcoming “The World...
ListenWords Matter Library: Era of Ignition by Amber Tamblyn from 2020-01-09T08:05:52
This week we put Era of Ignition: Coming of Age in a Time of Rage and Revolution by Amber Tamblyn into the Words Matter Library. Amber is an a...
ListenWelcome to 2020! from 2020-01-06T08:05:42
Happy New Year - Welcome to 2020.
This year will be one of the most - if THE most consequential in American political history.
For the first time ever, a President of the Uni...
ListenBest of Words Matter Library: The Ginsburg Files from 2020-01-02T08:05:49
In this Best of edition of the Words Matter Library, Katie sits down with Listen
The Professionals Pilot from 2019-12-30T08:05:56
This week Katie and Joe preview Joe's new series "The Professionals" where we give you the inside story of what really drives a presidential campaign. We'll break down what makes a campaign succ...
ListenWords Matter Library: Profiles in Courage by John F. Kennedy from 2019-12-26T08:05:12
As the United States Senate prepares for the Impeachment Trial of President Donald J. Trump, we once again put then-Senator John F. Kennedy's Pulitzer Prize winning book into the Words Matter Li...
ListenThe Pelosi Gambit from 2019-12-23T08:05:39
Last week the 45th President of the United States became only the 3rd Chief Executive in American History to be impeached by the House of Representatives.
This week Katie and Joe talk ...
ListenSPECIAL Rick Wilson from 2019-12-19T08:05:34
Rick Wilson is a political strategist, media consultant and a best-selling author based in Florida who has produced political commercials for governors, U.S. Senate candidates a...
ListenHouse Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff from 2019-12-16T08:05:03
This week Katie and Joe sit down with the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Congressman Adam Schiff is in his 10 term representing California’s 28th Congressional...
ListenWords Matter Library: If you cannot believe the President, who can you believe? from 2019-12-12T08:05:50
More than 20 years ago - in his closing argument in the Senate Impeachment Trial of President Bill Clinton, Republican House Manager Congressman Henry Hyde held up a letter from 8 year old Willi...
ListenSupreme Ambition with Ruth Marcus from 2019-12-09T08:05
Katie and Joe sit down with Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post. Ruth is a journalist, political commentator and author who has written for the Post Listen
Words Matter Library: Election Ride Home with Chris Higgins from 2019-12-05T08:05
This week we put Election Ride Home hosted by Listen
Moving Forward with Karine Jean-Pierre from 2019-12-02T08:05
Katie and Joe sit down with political activist, organizer, analyst and author Listen
Words Matter Library: Today Explained from 2019-11-27T08:05:50
This week we put Today Explained into the Words Matter Library. Sean Rameswaram is a journalist, a podcaster, a writer, producer and radio host. His previous experience includes time as a corres...
ListenImpeachment Continues with Elie Honig from 2019-11-25T08:05:16
Last week the House Intelligence Committee wrapped two weeks of public impeachment hearings. We heard from 12 witnesses in more than 40 hours of televised testimony.
Katie and Joe talk to ...
ListenWords Matter Library: China's Vision of Victory with Dr. Jonathan Ward from 2019-11-21T08:05:21
This week we add China’s Vision of Victory by Dr. Jonathan Ward to the Words Matter Library. Jonathan Ward is an author, a scholar and a strategic consultant. ...
ListenThe History of Impeachment with Professor Douglas Brinkley from 2019-11-18T08:05:36
Last week, public impeachment hearings of President Trump began in the House Intelligence Committee – and pretty much everyone who does not appear on Fox News or the
Words Matter Library: American History Tellers with Lindsay Graham from 2019-11-14T08:05:42
This week we add American History Tellers to the Words Matter Library. Listen
Fox News & Impeachment with Gabe Sherman from 2019-11-11T08:05:44
Gabe Sherman sits down with Katie and Joe to talk about Fox News...
ListenWords Matter Library: Verify by Joelle Charbonneau from 2019-11-07T08:05:09
SPECIAL Impeachment 2.0 Update from 2019-11-05T08:05:49
Last week was a significant one for the House Impeachment Inquiry. On Thursday the House of Representatives voted 232-196 to approve rules and move forward with the impeachment inquiry into Pres...
ListenAudience of One: Donald Trump, Television, and the Fracturing of America from 2019-11-04T08:05:49
It is impossible to understand Donald Trump without understanding America's relationship with television. James Poniewozik Listen
Words Matter Library: Make America Radical Again from 2019-10-31T07:05:34
This week we add Take Hold of Our History: Make America Radical Again&...
ListenLIVE from Politicon - Governor Bill Weld from 2019-10-28T07:05:31
A special LIVE edition from Politicon – the annual bipartisan “Unconventional Political Convention” held this year in Nashville, Tennessee. Listen
SPECIAL: Impeachment Update from 2019-10-22T23:30:07
It's been one month since Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced the start of the Listen
The Trump Doctrine with Max Boot from 2019-10-21T07:05:01
Joe sits down with author, historian and foreign policy analyst Max Boot to talk about Syria, Ukraine and the Trump Doctrine. Listen
Words Matter Library: Cokie Roberts Tribute from 2019-10-17T07:05:43
Last Month, we lost best-selling author, iconic reporter and journalistic pioneer Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Claib...
ListenNext Big Idea Preview from 2019-10-15T07:15:45
This week Katie and Joe preview a new podcast by Wondery - Listen
Impeachment & the Press with Margaret Sullivan from 2019-10-14T07:05:12
As the House moves forward with the impeachment inquiry of President Trump, how the press covers it could determine the outcome. This week, Katie and Joe sit down with Margaret Sullivan to talk ...
ListenWords Matter Library: The Moth -- Impeachment Day from 2019-10-10T07:05:24
This week we put Joe Lockhart's performance at The Moth into the Words Matter Library
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ListenAmerican Elections: Wicked Game Preview from 2019-10-08T07:30
This week we preview a great new podcast - American Elections: Wicked Game from Listen
High Crimes & Misdemeanors with Elie Honig from 2019-10-07T07:05:26
Elie Honig joins Joe this week to talk about the latest in the House Impeachment Inquiry against President Tr...
ListenWords Matter Library: The Whistleblower Complaint from 2019-10-03T06:12:47
A whistleblower complaint filed by an intelligence officer about President Trump’s interactions with the leader of Ukraine could change the course of presidential history.
This week we...
ListenThe First Steps of Impeachment with Carrie Cordero from 2019-09-30T07:05:23
The House takes the first steps toward impeachment -- Carrie Cordero joins Katie and Joe to explain how we got here and what may happen next.
Carrie is the Listen
SPECIAL - Impeachment Begins from 2019-09-25T23:31:48
History is unfolding in real time.
The President of the United States is accused of using the power of his office to extort a foreign government into finding dirt or manufacturing dirt...
ListenICYMI: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment from 2019-09-24T13:37:40
On July 25th 1974 Congresswoman Barbara Jordan delivered a Listen
Politico's Anna Palmer & Jake Sherman from 2019-09-23T07:05:43
Our guests this week are senior Washington correspondents for POLITICO and co-authors of Listen
Words Matter Library: Eleanor Roosevelt at the United Nations from 2019-09-19T07:05:53
This week, the 74th session of the General Assembly of the United Nations began in New York.
To mark the occasion, we wanted to pay tribute to one of the most important and meaningful ...
ListenThe View From Capitol Hill from 2019-09-16T07:05:28
This week Katie and Joe take a look at what's happening on Capitol Hill with Julie Hirschfeld Davis the new congre...
ListenWords Matter Library: The Vagina Bible from 2019-09-12T07:05:40
She's is a medical doctor on a mission to create a better medical Internet. Dr. Jen Gunter has been called "Twitter's Resident Gyn...
ListenFormer Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson from 2019-09-09T07:05:15
This week Joe sits down with former Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh John...
ListenSummer Wrap 2019 from 2019-09-05T07:05:33
For those of you who took the summer off from 24/7 news, Katie and Joe will recap the highlights and the lowlights. From Donald Trump to the race for the Democratic nomination, to the battle for...
ListenSPECIAL The Contenders with Walter Mondale from 2019-09-02T07:05:39
The Contenders is a special podcast series by Joe Lockhart. Given the importance of the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, we thought it important and inf...
ListenWords Matter Library: 56th Anniversary of the March on Washington from 2019-08-29T13:05:12
It was one of the defining moments of the civil rights movement and one of the most iconic speeches in American history.
56 years ago this week The March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom...
ListenICYMI - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President from 2019-08-26T07:05
In case you missed this important episode -- Katie and Joe sat down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President ...
ListenWords Matter Library: Battle for the Marble Palace from 2019-08-22T10:06:50
Battle for the Marble Palace – Abe Fortas, Earl Warr...
ListenPresidential Historian Douglas Brinkley from 2019-08-19T07:05:40
Our guest this week is a celebrated historian and the award-winning author, co-author or editor of more than 30 books. Most of these works are focused on American presidents or people we know be...
ListenFinal Word: Toni Morrison from 2019-08-15T07:05:48
Last week we lost one of the most influential and celebrated novelists in American literary history Ton...
ListenThe Threat of White Nationalist Terrorism from 2019-08-12T15:00:20
Is the federal government doing enough to fight domestic terrorism? This week we talk to one former senior law enforcement official who says no. For nearly two decades, Daryl Johnson was senior ...
ListenICYMI: Shannon Watts "Fight Like a Mother" from 2019-08-08T07:05:20
Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change...
ListenCan Racism Win in 2020? from 2019-08-05T07:05:02
Over the last few weeks, Donald Trump has left no doubt that he is a racist. He has also made it clear -- race will be perhaps THE biggest issue in 2020.
The question is: Can rac...
ListenWords Matter Library: The Ginsburg Tapes from 2019-08-01T07:05
This week we sit down with Lauren Moxley, the host oListen
The Russia Attack and the FBI with James Baker from 2019-07-29T07:05:59
Few know more about the origins of the FBI's Russia investigation than our guest this week, former Justice Department and FBI senior official James A. Baker.
From 2014 to 2017 Mr...
ListenSpecial: ICYMI - Mueller Preview with Jeremy Bash from 2019-07-23T19:39:33
As Special Counsel Robert Mueller prepares to testify in fron...
ListenRace and Immigration in Trump's America from 2019-07-22T07:05:24
Katie and Joe talk to two journalists to go beyond the tweets and find out what's really going on race and immigration in Donald Trump's America.
Final Word: Barbara Jordan on Impeachment from 2019-07-18T07:05
Barbara Jordan was a lawyer educator politician and a leader of the civil rights movement a Democrat and Houston native. Jordan was the first African-American elected to the Texas Senate after R...
ListenMueller Testimony Preview with Jeremy Bash from 2019-07-15T07:05:56
Special Counsel Robert Mueller is scheduled to testify in front of Congress next week. Katie and Joe preview his testimony with National Security expert Jeremy Bash.
From 2009 to 2011,...
ListenWords Matter Library: Four Friends by William D. Cohan from 2019-07-11T07:05:17
William D. Cohan is a special correspondent for Vanity Fair and is one of the most ...
ListenThe Latest from Trumpistan from 2019-07-08T07:05:49
This week Katie and Joe review the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure: Part II - Ivanka Trump's prominent role at the G20 and the photo-op diplomacy in North Korea. They also discuss how Donald ...
ListenSPECIAL The Declaration of Independence - Read by John F. Kennedy from 2019-07-04T07:05:12
On July 4th we celebrate the birth of the American Experiment. The Declaration of Independence -- written in the Spring of 1776 by a 33 year old Thomas Jefferson -- is America’s mission statemen...
ListenSPECIAL Democratic Debate Wrap-up from 2019-07-02T21:56:18
Last week the Democrats held their first debates in Miami -- 20 candidates over 2 nights. Now that the dust has settled a bit Katie gets Joe's take on what happened and what – if anything has ch...
ListenCindi Leive - Former Editor in Chief, Glamour from 2019-07-01T07:05:20
Cindi Leive is the former editor-in-chief of both Glamour and Listen
SPECIAL: Democratic Debate Preview from 2019-06-26T07:05:10
Welcome to a Special Edition of Words Matter – Joe previews the first Democratic debates held this week on MSNBC in Miami. 20 candidates, 5 moderators, 4 hours total.
The Moderato...
ListenPeter Baker - New YorkTimes Chief White House Correspondent from 2019-06-24T07:05:57
This week Katie and Joe sit down with award winning author and the Chief White House Correspondent for the New York Times, Listen
SPECIAL: The Legacy of Sarah Sanders from 2019-06-20T07:05
Katie and Joe discuss the legacy of outgoing White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders. Joe explains how damaging Sanders decision to end the White House press briefings has been and what is nee...
ListenThe Changing Media Landscape - Margaret Sullivan from 2019-06-17T07:05:38
Would Congressional impeachment hearings have the same impact as they did during Watergate? Washington Post media critic Margaret Sullivan talks to Katie and Joe about ...
ListenWords Matter Library: Shannon Watts from 2019-06-13T08:05:50
Shannon Watts is the author of Fight like a Mother – How a Grassroots Movement took on the Gun Lobby and Why Women will Change...
ListenTrump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 World Tour from 2019-06-10T07:05:18
This week we talk to Joe about the Trump Family's Excellent Adventure 2019 Taxpayer Funded World Tour. It started Memorial Day weekend in Japan. There was a brief stop back home to threaten Mexi...
ListenSpecial Final Word: 75th Anniversary of D-Day from 2019-06-05T07:05:18
75 years ago this week -- on June 6, 1944 soldiers, sailors, and airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force undertook the largest amphibious invasion in military history.
More than 150,0...
ListenCyberwar - How Russian Hackers & Trolls Helped Elect a President from 2019-06-03T07:05:20
When Special Counsel Robert Mueller spoke after his nearly two year investigation, he mentioned the Russia attack on our electoral system to start and end his remarks. Katie and Joe sit down wit...
ListenSpecial Preview: Cyberwar - Russian Hackers & the 2016 Election from 2019-05-29T21:54:14
Bob Mueller speaks -- Katie and Joe sit down with Professor Kathleen Hall Jamison author of Cyberwar: How Russian Hackers and Trolls Helped Elect a President Professor Jamieson is ...
ListenContempt of Congress (with Anne Milgram) from 2019-05-27T07:05:11
Donald Trump is 0-2 in his battle to stonewall Congress. Anne Milgram joins Joe and Katie to explain why it might get a whole lot worse for the Trump Administration. Anne began her career as an ...
ListenSpecial Final Word: 65th Anniversary of Brown vs. Board of Education from 2019-05-23T07:05:27
Last week was the 65th Anniversary of the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education. This week the final word goes to the woman behind the case. Linda Brown was in the third grade wh...
ListenHow Dangerous is Donald Trump? (with Tony Schwartz) from 2019-05-20T07:05:26
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Shadow White House Press Briefing from 2019-05-16T07:05:11
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need...
ListenBONUS: Shadow White House Briefing (Preview) from 2019-05-15T03:34:04
It has been more than two months since White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders has briefed the White House Press Corps. But journalists and the American have questions and those questions need...
ListenAsymmetrical Constitutional Warfare (with Ron Klain) from 2019-05-13T07:05:59
This week, Joe talks to Washington wiseman Ron Klain about the Trump Administration and their Republican allies on Capitol Hill are now waging asymmetrical constitutional warfare.
Ron ...
ListenSPECIAL: A Nation in (Constitutional) Crisis from 2019-05-09T19:02:09
This week, Speaker Nancy Pelosi said what many have thought for weeks, months and even years: the United States government is in a constitutional crisis.
Former federal prosecutor Mimi...
ListenPreview: Mimi Rocah-Constitutional Crisis from 2019-05-09T03:26:24
Joe interviews Mimi Rocah and they discuss whether or not we have reached the point of a Constitutional Crisis. The full interview drops on Thursday.
Mimi Rocah is Pace Law's Distingui...
ListenMark Leibovich from 2019-05-06T07:05:25
Katie and Joe talk with award winning journalist and best-selling author, Mark Leibovich about Washington in the Age of Trump, Impeachment and the NFL. Mark is the chief national correspond...
ListenWords Matter Library: Max Boot - Why I Left the Right from 2019-05-02T07:00:23
This week we put The Corrosion of Conservatism: Why I Left the Right Listen
The Post Mueller Landscape from 2019-04-29T07:05:05
Katie and Joe discuss the Biden roll-out, the Great Impeachment Debate, Sarah Sanders and 28 years later we give Anita Hill the final word.
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SPECIAL: The Great Impeachment Debate - Round 1 from 2019-04-26T07:01:35
To impeach or not to impeach -- that is the question. This week our own Joe Lockhart had a op-ed column published in The New York T...
ListenFinal Word: Columbine 20 Years Later from 2019-04-25T00:13:34
The shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado happened 20 years ago this week. Katie gives a specia...
ListenThe (Redacted) Mueller Report -- Now What? from 2019-04-22T07:00:18
Katie and Joe sit down with Carrie Cordero and Elie Hoenig. Carrie is the Robert M. Gates Senior Fellow and General Counsel <...
ListenSPECIAL: How to Read the (Redacted) Mueller Report from 2019-04-16T06:00:15
With the (redacted) Mueller Report set to be released on Thursday morning, Katie and Joe are joined by Matthew Miller for a reader's guide. Matt has worked at the highest levels of government an...
ListenMargaret Sullivan from 2019-04-15T07:00:56
Margaret Sullivan is the media columnist for Listen
Words Matter Library: Zucked by Roger McNamee from 2019-04-12T06:26:02
The New York Times bestseller about a noted tech venture capitalist, early mentor to Mark Zuckerberg, and Facebook investor, who wakes up to the serious damage Faceboo...
ListenWelcome Joe Lockhart from 2019-04-08T07:24:26
Katie officially welcomes Joe as the new co-Host of Words Matter. This week Katie and Joe discuss the politics of the Mueller Report, Trump's tax returns and Joe Biden's bad week. And Katie pays...
ListenNina Totenberg -- Legendary Supreme Court Journalist from 2019-04-01T06:30:42
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Words Matter Library: Daniel Patrick Moynihan - A Portrait in Letters from 2019-03-30T15:06
Final Word - Linda Brown from 2019-03-28T06:30:08
Linda Brown was in the third grade when her father Oliver tried to enroll her in Sumner Elementary School in Topeka Kansas. Oliver and his daughter Linda were denied admission to the school that...
ListenWhat Happens Next? from 2019-03-25T07:00:47
With the Mueller Investigation over and his Listen
Words Matter Library: We Say #NeverAgain from 2019-03-22T07:30:10
This week we put We Say #NeverAgain into the Words Matter Audible Library. This is a moving journalistic account of shooting at Marjory Stoneman Dougla...
ListenMeet Joe Lockhart from 2019-03-18T06:00:32
Last week we talked to Former White Press Secretary Joe Lockhart about the news of the day how the Mueller investigation ...
ListenSpecial Final Word - Charlayne Hunter-Gault from 2019-03-13T23:08:41
The month of March is international women's history month and we recently celebrated International Women's Day. Black history month just ended in February -- and so in honor of both, Katie will...
ListenFormer White House Press Secretary Joe Lockhart from 2019-03-11T06:00:57
Joe Lockhart served as the 19th White House Press Secretary under Listen
Words Matter Library: Power Wars by Charlie Savage from 2019-03-08T00:43
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Charlie Savage of the New York Times from 2019-03-04T06:00:28
The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Charlie Savage is a <...
ListenMeet Katie Barlow from 2019-02-27T21:06:03
Katie Barlow is the Host of Words Matter Listen
Vanity Fair's William D. Cohan from 2019-02-25T06:00:26
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Words Matter Library: "Why Wall Street Matters" by William D. Cohan from 2019-02-22T06:30:35
This week we add Why Wall Street Matters By Listen
The Show Goes On - Max Boot Interview from 2019-02-18T05:05
Washington Post Columnist Max Boot is the <...
ListenSteve's Final Episode from 2019-02-10T21:55:01
April Ryan - "Under Fire: Reporting from the Front Lines of the Trump White House" from 2019-02-04T07:00:26
April Ryan is an award winning journalist, veteran White House Correspondent, and best selling author. And by reporting from inside the Trump White House, she’s come under fire -- just for doing...
ListenShutdown Fallout from 2019-01-28T07:00:26
The 35-day federal government shutdown may be over - for now - but the long terms effects will be felt by hard working Americans for months and perhaps years to come. $200 million in spending pe...
ListenShutdown Fallout from 2019-01-28T07:00:26
The 35-day federal government shutdown may be over - for now - but the long terms effects will be felt by hard working Americans for months and perhaps years to come. $200 million in spending pe...
ListenWords Matter Library Special State the Union Edition from 2019-01-25T07:16:14
On what should be the eve of Donald Trump's second State of the Union address, we add Franklin D. Roosevelt’s 1941 “Four Freedoms” speech and Ronald Reagan’s Challenger Disaster speech to the Wo...
ListenTrumpistan in Chaos from 2019-01-21T07:00:42
The longest government shutdown in US history continues as Donald Trump and Senate Republicans continue to hold the paychecks of more than 800,000 Americans hostage in exchange for an unnecessar...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'A Letter from Birmingham Jail' & 'Where do we go from Here?' By Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. from 2019-01-18T07:45:30
This week, to honor legacy of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr we proudly put “A Letter from Birmingham Jail” and “Where Do We Go from Here?” into the Words Matter Audible Library. There ...
ListenProfessor Eddie Glaude, Jr. on Race in America from 2019-01-14T06:30:58
Professor Eddie Glaude Jr. argues in his groundbreaking book Democracy in Black that we live in a country founded on a “value gap”—with white lives value...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'Democracy in Black' by Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr. from 2019-01-11T04:34:18
We are proud to put "Democracy in Black" by Professor Eddie S. Glaude Jr. into the Words Matter Audible Library. Part manifesto, part history, part memoir, Professor Glaude argues...
ListenWelcome to 2019! from 2019-01-08T10:00:56
Welcome to Season 2 of Words Matter. The federal government is still shutdown, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is the only adult in the room and the race for the 2020 Democratic presidential nominati...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power' from 2019-01-04T20:12:57
As Nancy Pelosi retakes the Speaker’s gavel and the leadership of the Democratic opposition to Donald Trump, we add “Madam Speaker - Nancy Pelosi’s Life, Times and Rise to Power” to the Wor...
Listen2018 Words Matter Library Review from 2018-12-31T07:00:54
As our first season comes to a close, we review the titles put into the Words Matter Audible Library in 2018. From Steve Kornacki’s “The Red and the Blue”, to “Profiles in Courage” to “Columbine...
ListenRoger Ailes & Trump State TV - an interview with Gabe Sherman from 2018-12-24T06:00:42
Would Nixon have survived if Fox News was around in 1974? Author of the “Loudest Voice in the Room,” Gabe Sherman explains how the GOP propaganda network was forged in the aftermath of Watergate...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'The Loudest Voice in the Room' by Gabriel Sherman from 2018-12-21T06:35:14
This week we add Gabriel Sherman’s “Loudest Voice in the Room” to the Words Matter Audible Library. This astonishing inside story of Fox News, details how Roger Ailes created the most powerful m...
Listen'Swamp Chronicles' - by Adam Davidson of the New Yorker. from 2018-12-17T07:30
In his “Swamp Chronicles” series for the New Yorker, Adam Davidson follows the money of Donald Trump, his family, his Administration, and his business associates. From Azerbaijan to Scotland to ...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'TrumpNation - The Art of Being Donald Trump' by Tim O’Brien from 2018-12-14T04:43:29
This week we add “TrumpNation the Art of Being Donald Trump” to the Words Matter Audible Library. Find out why this comprehensive and definitive biography Donald Trump sued author Tim O’Bri...
ListenRemembering 41 from 2018-12-10T06:49:54
George H. W. Bush was a man of honor, courage, integrity and kindness. The last of the "greatest generation" to serve as Commander-in-Chief, the 41st President of the United States will be remem...
ListenWords Matter Library: '41 - A Portrait of My Father' By George W. Bush from 2018-12-07T08:53:29
This week we are proud to add “41 - A Portrait of My Father” by George W. Bush to the Words Matter Audible Library. This important and moving presidential biography by a presidential son is a mu...
ListenMississippi Smoldering from 2018-12-03T16:18:47
In a knockdown, drag out, exceptionally nasty runoff election for a US Senate seat - Democrats in Mississippi came much closer than anyone expected. Elise talks about the brutal campaign and the...
ListenWords Matter Library – 'Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It' by Steven Brill from 2018-12-01T21:33:52
This week we add “Tailspin: The People and Forces Behind America's Fifty-year fall--and Those Fighting to Reverse It” to the Audible Words Matter Library. The latest book by award...
Listen'How to Get Rid of a President' - An Interview with author and former CIA officer David Priess from 2018-11-26T06:00:22
David Priess is a former CIA officer and presidential briefer, his new book “How to Get Rid of a President” tells the history of the political dark arts in action. In the nat...
ListenWords Matter Library: ‘How to Get Rid of a President' by David Priess from 2018-11-23T14:46:09
This week we add "How to Get Rid of a President" by David Priess to the Audible Words Matter Library. A former CIA officer and presidential briefer, Priess tells the history of the politica...
ListenLBJ and Reagan - An interview with Jonathan Darman author of 'Landslide' from 2018-11-19T06:30:12
This week we added "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics,...
ListenWords Matter Library: 'Landslide' by Jonathan Darman from 2018-11-16T20:13:34
This week we add "Landslide" by Jonathan Darman to the Audible Words Matter Library. In this riveting work of narrative nonfiction, Jonathan tells the story of two giants of American politics, L...
Listen"It ain't over 'til it's over" - Midterm Election Wrap up from 2018-11-12T07:30:28
The 2018 Midterms keep going. In what was perhaps the most important Midterm Congressional Election in American history, voters put a check on Donald Trump and gave Democrats a solid majority in...
ListenThe Gathering Storm of Constitutional Crisis from 2018-11-09T02:25:51
Within hours of Democrats regaining control of the House of Representatives, Donald Trump holds an explosive East Room press conference and fires the Attorney General - replacing him with an unc...
ListenMidterm Election Preview from 2018-11-05T06:17:35
It is the most important midterm election in US history. On Tuesday Americans will either repudiate or validate Donald Trump and Trumpism. Elise and Steve look at the closing arguments on both s...
ListenWords Matter Library: "Columbine" by David Cullen from 2018-11-02T21:36:22
In this episode of the Words Matter Library brought to you by Audible, Elise interviews award winning journalist and author David Cullen about his New York Times best seller, "C...
ListenRob Reiner - Words Matter Interview from 2018-10-29T05:30:25
As Americans prepare to vote in the most important Midterm election in our 242 year history, we sit down with legendary actor, director, producer, writer and activist Rob Reiner -- someone who k...
ListenLord Ashcroft - Words Matter Interview from 2018-10-24T23:55:49
Elise talks with Lord Ashcroft about the new round of Ashcroft in America research leading up to November's midterm elections - and about his new book "White Flag? An Examination of the UK'...
ListenVanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox, author of "Born Trump" - Words Matter Interview from 2018-10-22T08:30:17
Vanity Fair’s Emily Jane Fox talks about her best selling book “Born Trump.” From Ivanka to Don Jr. to Eric, Tiffany and Barron - Emily tells us what really goes on inside America’s First (...
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