St Pauli's Jackson Irvine and South Africa's Ode Fulutudilu - a podcast by BBC World Service

Australian international Jackson Irvine talks about his move to Hamburg's FC St Pauli. Also on the programme, South Africa's Ode Fulutudilu discusses her tough journey to professional football.

Picture: FC St. Pauli fans at the Millerntor Stadium for a match against Holstein Kiel (Photo by Cathrin Mueller/Getty Images).

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