Episode 281: Exploring Lurk: a New Language for Recursive zk-SNARKs - a podcast by Fredrik Harrysson, Anna Rose

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In this week’s episode, host Anna Rose (https://twitter.com/annarrose) chats with Chhi'mèd Künzang (https://research.protocol.ai/authors/chhimed-kunzang/) and François Garillot (https://www.garillot.net/) from Lurk Labs (https://lurk-lab.com/) about all things Lurk, Lisp and zk languages.
They discuss the history of the Lurk project, from its beginnings with Protocol Labs (the team that built Filecoin), to its emergence as a Turing-complete programming language for recursive zkSNARKs.They discuss Lurk’s relationship with Lisp, what Lisp is, and how developers familiar with that family of languages would be able to interact with Lurk. They then discuss how Lurk compares to other zkDSLs and the new innovations this Lisp-based language brings to the table.
Here’s some additional links for this episode:Programming Languages
* Circom (https://iden3.io/circom)* Arkworks GitHub (https://github.com/arkworks-rs)
* Leo by Aleo (https://www.aleo.org/post/leo-programming-language)* SnarkyJS (http://snarkyjs.o1labs.org/)
* Noir (https://noir-lang.org/)Lurk Links
* LURK: Lambda, the Ultimate Recursive Knowledge by Amin, Burnham, Garillot, Gennaro, Künzang, Rogozin and Wong (https://eprint.iacr.org/2023/369)* Lurk Lab (https://lurk-lab.com/)
* Lurk Lab Twitter (https://twitter.com/LurkLab)* Lurk Language (https://lurk-lang.org/)
* Lurk GitHub (https://github.com/lurk-lab)Additional Reading/Listening
* A Sloth-based Verifiable Delay Function (VDF) evaluator and SNARK prover GitHub (https://github.com/protocol/vdf)* Recursive Functions of Symbolic Expressions and Their Computation by Machine, Part I by John McCarthy, April 1960 (http://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/recursive.pdf)
* Using ZK Proofs to Fight Disinformation By Trisha Datta and Dan Boneh (https://medium.com/@boneh/using-zk-proofs-to-fight-disinformation-17e7d57fe52f)* Common Lisp (https://lisp-lang.org/)
* Episode 172: ZK languages with Alex Ozdemir (https://zeroknowledge.fm/172-2/)* zkSessions: The ZK Languages Rundown (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABjSn_6m4Ac&list=PLj80z0cJm8QEz6BotG4SkGSCupwkPonCZ&index=12)
* zkSummit4 Videos (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj5yY3wguIo&list=PLj80z0cJm8QFnY6VLVa84nr-21DNvjWH7) - check the playlist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-C1fHzApEQ) for individual talks!
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