Staying Out of Drama - a podcast by Carla Royal, Juliet Fay

from 2020-11-10T10:00

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Here’s what we explored:

  • noticing how personal drama is also rearing up at this time of big drama on the US and European stage
  • what's the alternative to joining the fray?
  • we know living in drama is exhausting
  • brain science says our brains are melodramatic and have a negativity bias
  • we're hardwired to look for the negative, knowing that can help us not judge ourselves
  • when we're in a personal drama we can feed on other bigger dramas
  • Carla gave an example of lying on the couch depressed and crying at victims of violence in Kosovo
  • it looks like a big gesture would sort out that uncomfortable feeling
  • it looks like things outside of us are giving us our feelings
  • in fact, we are generating our feelings from within
  • Jamie Smart's story of the teddy bear.
  • the child loves the teddy bear so much and feels all these beautiful feelings apparently from the teddy bear
  • if you take the teddy bear away, the child cries
  • yet if you look inside the teddy bear, there is no love and care, only stuffing.
  • we often mistakenly attribute feelings of well being to things outside ourselves when in fact they come from within
  • we don't always realise that feelings come and go and have no objective meaning in them about ourselves or the world
  • we have a tendency to collapse into the drama of our feelings
  • we are experiencing many losses, of time with loved ones, income, health, prospects
  • if we believe all our security lies in those things then this time is very frightening
  • when we glimpse our security and wellbeing lies deeper than our feelings, we ride through the experiences of loss and triumph with more equilibrium
  • it's counter-intuitive because one of the hallmarks of stress is urgency, but getting curious about where your wellbeing actually rests, is helpful
  • even a fleeting inquiry can take you out of the drama
  • Carla talks of the tyranny of the urgent when we freak out about problems
  • story of a client going into panic mode about a business issue
  • Carla laughs at the panic and reminds the client all is okay and in response, the client started laughing
  • the stressful, urgent feeling is a wake-up call that we've gone off track, from our sense of equilibrium
  • sit on the bank of myself and let the pond of myself come back to stillness
  • don't take our word for it, if you're a bit curious about it, notice for yourself, when you get nudges that are trying to help you get back into equilibrium
  • in a state of insecurity our judgment can be a bit off
  • no better time to turn within because the old structures are changing fast
  • Carla talks about her break down, breakthrough where everything had to collapse for things to transform
  • her programmes are called Metamorphose because she is there to help clients transform if that is what they want to do.
  • she's not there to make them better caterpillars!
  • the system we're living in is not working, maybe it needs to fall apart
  • the ego tries to make order out of chaos
  • as our sense of something deeper than our moods grows, we get less fascinated by our ego
  • helpers and healers and artists are stepping into the centre now to help redress the balance of a society over-identified with the mechanistic
  • Carla tells the story of falling into hopelessness yet the next day she came out of it and felt fine
  • before, she could stay in those feelings for days, weeks, or years.
  • if we can refrain from getting so involved in it and just carry on, those feelings dissolve on their own
  • looking with curiosity in the direction of the source of our experience is far more enjoyable than collapsing into our feelings
  • the more you can look away from the drama and wonder about being alive it brings you into a more open space
  • from there, your thoughts shift more easily
  • Carla talks about the all-consuming depression and waking up in the hospital and the depression lifted never to return with the same intensity
  • however, she did experience anxiety afterward
  • Carla remembers wandering in the woods and her nervous system began to relax. She did it for years
  • when we connect to the mystery, to that life force, to nature, to ourselves it puts us in touch with the fact that Life is living us.
  • rather than sitting in nature being a prescription, it occurred to both of us to go into nature and appreciating those nudges
  • we are always connected except that our thinking tells us we are not
  • allow the things on our mind to just flow through
  • we get so wrapped up in our stories about everything it obscures that connection
  • when we feel connected it doesn't occur to us to get so caught in our thoughts
  • the deeper essence is not what feels overwhelmed; the ego gets depressed
  • our true essence is not fragile, it can't be riled up
  • we can get very wedded to our opinions and yet in reality our thoughts can and do change all the time
  • our judgments about ourselves are not coming from our essence - they are not reliable
  • what, in us, is experiencing life?
  • no better time for this exploration
  • what really supports us?
  • Viktor Frankl found the good the true and the beautiful in the midst of a concentration camp
  • The stillness is inviting but be gentle with yourself when you jump into drama
  • When you feel that connection you'll know whether you need to speed up or slow down
  • a real-time internal GPS is available for us

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Quote/sources

- The End of Your World, by Adyashanti

- Jamie Smart, coach

- Man's Search For Meaning, Viktor E. Frankl

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