28: There Is Hope [February 22, 2011] - a podcast by Tom Barbalet

Heron starts by talking about what is on television. Tom recounts his time in the San Francisco Bay Area and finally launching the 1993 writing, Field of Chaos. Tom explains to Heron discovering listeners in real-time and more on his Bay Area trip. They explore the Social Network. Tom asks about the changes in Heron's discussion. Tom asks about Heron's changes in thinking on his future work. They talk about a mutual intensity and sleep. Oh and fieldofchaos.com, that's fieldofchaos.com...

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